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"Vision to Value " Weekly Marketing Call -
Back to meetingsCustomer Engagement Efforts: Tailored presentations and fabric swatches ready for ADTN US customer to enhance business alignment and communication.
Topito Presentation: Company profile presentation due next Monday, facilitating introductions to a major Peru-based retailer.
Website Launch Update: New website launched but currently facing a 404 error; expected resolution by tomorrow morning.
Customer Outreach Planning: Developing a structured approach for new Canadian and Asian markets to formalize outreach and maintain clear documentation.
Lingerie Costing Challenges: Target price for bras set at $10.99; alternative factories in Bangladesh and China explored to meet cost goals.
Strategic Market Positioning: Focus on balancing quality and cost while targeting premium customers with competitive pricing strategies.
"Vision to Value " Weekly Marketing Call -
Thu, Jan 22, 2026, 5:00 AM53m
Participants (6)
asheshwar.jha@victorytime.onmicrosoft.commadhukarraj@victorytime.onmicrosoft.comsudhakar.raj@victorytime.onmicrosoft.comarnavi@victorytime.onmicrosoft.commohit@victorytime.onmicrosoft.comzia.sarker@victorytime.onmicrosoft.com
🎯 Action Items (18)
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Send customer inspiration email to Rajesh V at Victory International@Zia Sarker
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Collaborate with Mohit on fabric swatches review and send to customer@Zia Sarker
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Identify and shortlist potential Canadian customers; prepare approach document@Zia Sarker
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Explore laundry project factory options and collaborate with Mohit@Zia Sarker
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Organize and document approach for US agent meeting; share meeting link and agenda@Asheshwar Jha
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Follow up on product utilization activities for India customer, reporting progress to Mohit@Asheshwar Jha
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Finalize fabric swatch books for ADTN customer; prepare presentation incorporating new prints and fabrics by Monday@Priyanka
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Prepare presentation for Peruvian retailer Topito by Tuesday@Priyanka
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Continue website content and product presentation updates@Priyanka
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Review fabric swatches and presentations with Zia and Priyanka; provide feedback@Mohit Hira
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Explore and establish contacts with smaller US customers and Korean sourcing agents; also coordinate with Amit on Vietnam/Cambodia Korean-owned factories@Mohit Hira
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Work with Zia on laundry project cost breakdowns; evaluate possible factory partnerships in Bangladesh and China; update pricing feasibility@Mohit Hira
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Coordinate with Gargi on competitive market research in New York stores@Mohit Hira
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Collect market intelligence and products in New York to understand pricing and product standards for lingerie project@Gargi
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Request Kabim to summarize past costing and samples for ADTN customer target evaluation@Madhukar Raj
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Oversee status of website and overall approach documentation consolidation@Madhukar Raj
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Coordinate calling Priyanka into meetings for design updates@Arnavi Raj
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Provide updates on swatch compilation and website launch status@Arnavi Raj
📋 Summary
📝 Full Transcript
Does anybody have the notes of the last meeting that we did? Can you open the fhir files file? Sam? Can anybody hear me? Yes sir. From the last meeting. Last meeting Sir, I have few. Only like GI has said that 2 customer he will be approached like like that only only two three lines. Nope. Can you pull out the fireflies of the last meeting? The last meeting was in person so there are no fire flies. But I took notes. In the last meeting. We just discussed how Zia sir had one or two people that he was going to reach out to. And we spoke about the trade fair in Japan. Hello. Yes. And there was one addition like addiction or something that the Canada customer administer. They are supposed to get the evil approach for the mood board and inspiration today. So that that was only I have written also. And then we need to look for some kids buyer kids. We are basically. Yeah. We discussed having like a trans seasonal buyers that a number one priority is that we need to get something in the fall business time. Sorry. The date was 12th of January. Conference called. Arrange. Arrangements business and first arrange fall business. One team and one team at back end Zia ADTN we did some costing and that they were on the higher side. Every used to mix and design work with design that he's doing. I'm aware of all the costings that have done Evaluate them against the target given and find out what would be the best price. You have you worked on this? Yeah. Online. Yes sir, he is online. To organize his approach and put down in paper. Ashish, where's your organization? On the paper Priyanka and we need to make optics correct. Once this is completed then we will see. So optics in my personal opinion is your website and your presentation to the customer Is your website running? Let's not jump, let's finish one point. Is the online or no? Yes sir. He is online sir. I I calling him also. Yeah, he's there. Siri? Yeah. Can you hear near us? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah. Morning. All well? Yeah. Everything. Okay. So last last time we had reviewed we had decided that we will review the costing against the target of ADTN. Right. And see where we have. So has anything been done on that? No, we are sending the fabric swatches. Design team already prepared it and we are planning to send it by today. What I'm asking is can you ask Kabim to take out all the old costing and the samples and give a summary of what was the target and what we so that going forward we have an idea as to how much plus minus we need to be. We'll prepare everything here to review. And. No, no. Last. Last meeting that happened. Zia. Last meeting that happened. Which customer are we talking about? What is. Which is this customer? What you talking about? There are two customer was in discussion. One is the usa the adtn. The customer I visited. And we have done a lot of costings. So finally they asked us to they connect us with the design team and told us to send the fabric swatches for men's category. So. Okay. Priyanka and Gargi, both of them worked for last two weeks and they prepared the whole the swatch books. And today we are planning to discuss both of them. So can we hear you. There was some discussion about you Reviewing this with Mr. You and Mr. Mohit getting involved in this project. Did you have a meeting with Mr. Mohit on this design team? Talking to them? Yeah. Were you able to. Were we able to look into this? I saw the. The swatches are getting ready have got ready yesterday night. So I'll. I. I'm. I'll. After I finish I'll go to design. Priyanka told me in the morning to. Take a look at it. Is anyone of the design team here? No, Aravi is here. So Aravi was also. Aravi is there? Yes. Okay. So can. Why are. Why are we missing the design team here? They were not present in the last meeting. But if you would like I can ask Prianka to join. She's just outside. All right. So can we. Can we hear from Priyanka as to what kind, what swatches, what are we presenting? How are we going about this? What are you doing about. Can we get some idea about this? So what are we going. Just give me one minute. Let me call her. I think that is. Yeah, that can be forwarded later ever compiling throughout the week. I'm aware of it. This is a weekly call. What I need is to hear a bit as to on what group at one line they are following. I mean do we have any directions from design the customer? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Customer send the inspiration as well. The good boss. Based on which last two weeks they have compiled. I want to hear what. What inspirations came. I don't want to hear this data situation. I want to figure out some real thing. What was the inspiration? I want to understand. Let's like five minutes. This is what this call is all about. Inspiration. I said. Maner especially open top and some bottom also. So they are basically looking for Len and some other fabric and what new we are dealing with that the new development from our end also. So based on that, Gargi and Pranka, both of them collected lots of swases. And from our end also we collected some from our connected factories and the supplier. And we gave it to them. And today we supposed to review what they compiled all together. Then we'll send it to customers. So Priyanka told me last night that books are ready to review. So maybe Today me and Mr. Mohit will review together. Who will communicate with the design team? Who is communicating with the design team? No, customer design. Habib is the key person. And Gargi and Priyanka, both of them. Will be in touch. Okay. Sorry. Priyanka was in sampling. She's just come. You guys. You want to see the books as well, correct? No, no. I just want to hear from Priyanka's mouth what. What. What is being arranged for. That's all. And what was the direction that was what? What kind of directions were to be given from the customer? Was there an email? Yeah, email. They send an email with all the fabric swatches. And they send us inspiration also and gave us some idea also what kind of fabric they're looking for. Very good. It's a mic on this email. That email came to me also. No, you are not. Because this is a new design team. So they didn't copy you. I know you reply definitely will ccu. Okay. So do you have that email with you now? Yes, we do. Can you forward it to my Victory time international email or that email that you are always we're using for new orders. Okay, hold on. I'll tell you the email. Rajesh v I victory international. R a j s v I n t l. You have the email. I don't have the email. You are not into involved in this situation, right? I am not at all. But Bianca is here now. If you want to ask her your question then. Morning. Everyone. Has to be done on adpn. Sorry. Can you give a brief on what has been done on ADP and swatches? So I. I received two forwards from Gari and Diazer also informed me that we need to send out a fabric collection for them. There was some email. There was some email or some details received from the customers to what some day where they gave you some directions as to what. What they're looking for and things like that. There are two pictures which are more like a collection of six pictures each. In each photo, one is for the men's wovens shirt fabrics and the other is for men's bottoms wovens. So accordingly, we've made Two books. Gargi has sourced fabrics from a few mills as suggested by Madhukasa. And then Madhu sir asked me to get into this to compile it and send it out. So I've got the swatches cut sticker and compiled in two books. Where are these swatches from? What are the swatches? These are from certain mills that Gargi visited and collected a few from Zaber, Zubair and other places. And we shortlisted, Gargi and I, we shortlisted together which we felt were relating to the swatches that we could see in the pictures. Inspirations. And we've grouped and put them together in a book. Can you have a look at it today? And let give me a feedback as to what. What sense I mean it is. What is your feeling about these things? May. Abby. I. I'll. After this call, I. I'll go there. All right, good on for this customer. This is the only. This is the only thing. We are now connecting to the design team and moving forward from there. Am I right? Yes. Okay, very good. What Was other customer? Mr. Zia, which was other customers? There was another customer is in Peru, Topito. So I had a chat with the customer and they are asking for a. Like a PPT presentation. What kind of product we are doing. So I gave Priyanka their website to look at that and see their product line and prepare a presentation for them. So Priyanka is working on it. She said Arnabi told me it's gonna take next Monday or Tuesday. So I'll wait for that. Yeah, that's going to happen by Tuesday. Hopefully by Tuesday she'll be able to finish it because the. Those were. All those presentations are being made. What kind of customer is this? They are retailer. They have almost. They are retailer. They're a bit of like. Like a Primark or Uniqlo based in Peru. I believe they have a large. I believe they have a very large office in Delhi. Yeah, they have a large office in Delhi. A huge office. They have a lot of Pandora in India. So Bangladesh also they are working almost 10 to 15 suppliers. Do they have office in Bangladesh or they don't have open. No, they don't have an office in Bangladesh. For the control from the India office for the QC part. Can you. Do we know who is heading the India office or do you know anybody working in the India office? Can we put all our connections to find a connect to somebody who's working in the end office here? I. I haven't worked with you on this one, so I'll I'll discuss. I haven't worked with the. On this. Just give me. Just give me a minute. You guys continue. I'll join back. This one is doing everything. That's what like. Like a Primarky but even at the price point of Primark. But I don't know what the scale is with this brand though. Primark is massive apparently. What they are of that level in Peru. Okay. Like they are all over the. One of the largest retailers. Yeah, they're huge. Big retailer in Peru and Colombia. And they're spelling a bit of everything. Yeah. Basically the presentation. That's what I told you though. That presentation itself will work. We don't need to create exclusively for them something different because. That is the. Reason I said when we tweak that. That's the same one you share with Zia. You can't do all categories. Yeah, there's no. I mean there's something that you have to just focus on and then do. If you go to do everything, there's no. It'll look like you're just all over the place. So. Oh, Rising is also kind of similar. What's the update on ARC Dyx Canada? Sorry? Yeah, what's the update on ARC Dyx Canada? Before you do that plan with us. How should it be done? What should be the right way? And then we will do whatever. Whatever you think. Whenever I can make a short list for the potential customers in Canada. Then we'll think about that. How do we approach them. For some important detailers here. And put down on paper. Ashish, where are we on that? Can you put a mute on your suggestive. It wasn't me but I have muted Sudhakar. Sir. Do we have your approach on a piece of paper? Hello. Yes sir. Do we have your approach on a piece of paper? Yes sir. I. I had to just only connect with this guy. So I already organized first. And the meeting is tomorrow, correct? Yeah, that. That. That is. Is tomorrow. Have you sent. Yes, I sent the invite. I sent the link on the group also. Okay. Okay, thank you. This was the. This was the meeting which the last time it didn't happen, right? Yes sir. Coffee top madhukariya bhatkiji. Who do you know in top it Up? Some merchant and some designer also. Where in Delhi or where. No, no. Daily team only QC team. Delhi doesn't have any merchant sourcing or the design team. All are in Peru. The Delhi has only the quality team over there. Order the place from Peru. Order placement is done from Peru. Order placement from Peru. But they have exports In Colombia, Peru, whole Central America is a huge company. India, they have almost 50 suppliers. Okay, so what is your. Who is your connection there? Who's your connection there? Some designers and some sourcing managers here. There is a lot of people in this company. So I know some divisions there. How some people. How do you. What is the connection? I mean from my. From my previous company. Okay, so then what is the. What is the plan of action here? You're going to send a PPT and introduction in website details and all that. Right. So this is a company. They're working with most of the trading companies and the buying houses. They don't work with the factories directly. They are. Most of the customer are trader. So I thought this could be a good approach for us. So first of all we have to explain them our. Our strength and the company existence. So that's why I told them to prepare a PPT with the company profile. Then I can move into the next level. Okay. The first contact is a very important contact here. How you approach is very, very important. Yeah. What they do, Their. Their Peru team comes to Delhi twice in a year to look at all the new collection from different customers, different suppliers. So what I can do, I can send our company profile and our PPT and ask them what is the next schedule for them to come in India. Then we can go there with our design team, with our collections also. Definitely they will choose something from there. Okay. So where are we on our website? I gave it to Priyanka. She's working on it here. I gave the offset and everything. What is. No, no. Where are we on our website? So the website is done. It was pushed to be live? Yes, day before yesterday. Now we pushed it to be live. And the server generally takes 24 to 48 hours to update the name change. Essentially we. Because we changed everything in the content, it has been pushed. Right now the website is showing a 404 error which is resolved by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest. Okay. Did you review the website with Ms. Moitzer also? No. Yeah. Been seeing the website? Yes. Okay. So the contact connection with this customer, this new customer should go only when our. When. When our website is up and running is on. Try it for one or two days and it is fully functional. Then only you send this connection so that they can connect to our website. Don't send. Okay. Don't send this connection anyways. Because the presentation and the product presentation, the introduction and all will take two, three days more. So any which way. So Tuesday, Wednesday. Maybe not early next week. Yeah. The product presentation. Anyways, Priyanka is updating with newness, with freshness from the stuff that we saw at Hurley and Scotch. The new prints, the new colors, new textures, new fabrics. She's updating the presentation with all of that so that it looks fresh and it looks relevant and it looks new. So that whole process we're aiming to complete by Monday as well. Okay, just make sure your. Your website is properly up and running before we do that. All right. Okay, move on. What was the next. We're going to that agents meeting you're talking about with the Ashish, right? Yes. Yes, sir. So that is a risk. Last time it was not happen. But the guy did not come online. I was there. So he has rescheduled it for tomorrow. What else? What else is having on Ashish? On our last discussion under your control. What else was there? Initial this organizing meeting with this guy. Okay. We will be reviewing on that and then appointment. May at least prepare and we'll put into the group so we can review in that next one. Doesn't have to be very exhaustively. Yes sir. Then we will be sending. Hello. Yeah, I'll share you that link and all that. This was not discussed in the last meeting. I think maybe you guys had a conversation about this separately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the side, not in the middle. About reaching out to other customers in the US who these customers might be or what the procedure might be. Because I'm. I don't think anyone else is aware of this. I think I mentioned to Mohit also. Figure out whether we can approach anything. Correct. We had that conversation. Wasn't part of it. That's Ashish. And you and I had this conversation. That's what I was not there either. So let him. Anyway, so let's get the list out in the left all the. Because Half. Half the information goes missing then otherwise let's put it in the group itself. Put it. We don't step on any toes. We don't step on any toes. It's if it's there in the group. Correct. That's the idea. So based on this. On the same lines. Correct. So let. I'm. I'm still thinking about who I can approach because most of the people that I know are people that are, you know, in the public dream only now. So I'm trying to look at somebody smaller or something. So let me. I'll give me some time. I'm working on it. Because kids limited domain. So I've asked couple of people. I've been talking to people. Meanwhile I'LL I I'm trying to do. I'm trying to see if I can get Spain importer importer versus a brand Ye so I'm trying to do that also but I'm not. That's why I'm not saying anything. Okay now let us coming to same. Way in Korea but that was for India operations so that same way in Korea I was talking to Jaju but that guy is not responding so I'm trying to get a connect to him. Jaju is part. It's a part of Shin Shinseg they are retailers in Korea. They exclusively in India. They were working through impulse but I believe their relationship has gone south so I've written to them that was a cold email I thought first I'll try the cold email. I'm trying to see if I can get a connect there. So the guy who head sourcing is a Korean guy and he sits in Korea in Seoul. So I'm trying to get his number and trying to get a reference for him. So once I have that then maybe we can see if we can do that because I'll try and focus more on the alternate market. A lot of this Cambodian. Some of the Cambodian factories we are working with they have Korean ownerships. Yeah. So and they are based in Korea. So not the Cambodian factory, the. The Vietnamese. The Vietnamese factory that we're working with they have Korean management and Korean ownership and head office. I meant one of those in Vietnam or Cambodia Speak to Amit maybe Amit can talk to the those factory ownerships and they. They know these people and they can connect. Those are all. They're big shots from Korea so they can have some connection and we have a history with them so they can connect us. We are going now after this to Ahmed. Priyanka need to put that range together for mountain so I have to pick up all the pieces. I want to close it this week. Like I said, I'm also talking but I'll speak to Amit also. No problem. I'll speak to. Because those are opportunities which are. Those are all financially solid partnerships so. And they work with agent. Hello? Hello? Everybody's gone. Hello. We are all here. So we were talking about this laundry project. No, he's not. Hello? He's gone. Can we call and see. Me? I'm calling him because there's one more. Project which you told me to bring up today. The laundry project with Shabir. There was a power cut the Delhi house. So that's just trying to reconnect from the phone from laptop. Hello. Oh, you Wanted to discuss Shabir's project also here. No. Where are we? Where are we on that? Let's get. Okay. Yeah, let's go figure out what was it. Yeah, okay. So where we left it last was we made all the samples, we did everything with Mondo, we did all the developments, we made everything that was Jigbo acquired. We also did pricing with Mondo. We took their price breakdowns also. And then he came back and he sent us a target price where a pack of three TJ Maxx is retailing hanger pack at 1999. So they need to buy a pack of three at 1099. Now effectively, if he's buying a pack of three at 1099 R even at. Even if I break everything down also with Mondor and I, you know, whatever I do and I break it down and take whatever it is, I was not coming before 550 each unit. So if I need to be a pack of three at 10.99 take off two bucks for dollar at least two dollars for freight duty shooty all that. So you need to be at nine bucks. At nine bucks means you need to buy each unit at three bucks. Now I don't see this particular product how to get it down to three bucks at least with within the network that I know. So now that we've activated it, maybe what I'll do is I can ask Zia if he has any laundry factories. He wants to give it a shot here. Because the ones that I know I can't do it. I mean I'm. I'm unable to do it. Okay, very Good. So Z. Mr. Z, are you there? Yes, I'm here, sir. First of all, when we arrived at whatever price that we arrived at, let's good get into the break breaking of it instead of just going to a fob price from the factory. How and let us understand from Zia or from some Langla factory. Arnabi also has a friend who owns a factory like this who owns a factory luxury factory. I know which is the factory. What is the name? Renai. Renai Group. Very good. So we first we. What we need to figure out is that how are. If we are arriving at 550 per piece for that bra or whatever, then how are we arriving at the. What is the working on which we are arriving at 550 per piece. And maybe in our. Do we know anybody in our realm who does these kind of products? For us to know whether whether this is actually a correct pricing we are doing or an incorrect pricing we're doing. I have the breakdowns. I have all the breakdowns. I have it by the unit, I have it by the component only. And when I'd analyzed it, the only factor that I felt was high was the cms. Because the CMS are pretty high. They were high by what? As per me, a bra should not go more than a dollar. On CF they were at about $50, 60. But that's also considering the complexity of the product. So I have all the breakdowns, I have all the charges I have. I have it down to the last component. That's why I said maybe Zia has a factory. So we can give it another. Depending on the complexity. Let me work with Zia today. I will show him everything. I let him see if he has a factory. I have, I'm telling I have the whole component breakdown also with me. So the only thing that I see happening where also the difference is also where Shabir where he wants to launch is with all the cup sizes. Now that alone brings your costings up. So maybe we don't do that. We try and see if we have whichever factory we work with and is doing us, we can use a cup size which is which they already have a mold. Because. The one time expenditure, if required, the promoters will put in that expense expense at one time expense. After that the mold charges are should not be part of the costing. Number one. When you do the molds, they don't, they don't last forever, right. So every, every year or so the mold has to be re made or rebought or whatever it is. Which is why the cost was coming out very high, especially in the beginning for sampling out of Mondo. But if you do a style that doesn't have the molded cup, for example, then the cost automatically becomes a lot lower. So there are workarounds in the lingerie category as well. If we want to pitch ourselves in this category, my recommendation would not be to start with the molded cups because they're also a very technical garment. We don't know how to make that yet. But there's a big market for Bralettes for things that have the removable cups for. Is coming from. Is he pitching himself. He's pinching himself against. Against a product which is, which is a high end product which he wants to launch at TJ Maxx because nobody is doing that. So there is a opportunity in that is where he's trying to seize the opportunity. So if you go with product which he they're already doing, he doesn't want to do that. That's that's the. That's where the whole catch is. So again now does he why he says he wants to. Let me also tell you when we had this last conversation with Shabir, the the deal was that he says if. If he pitches at 24.99 for a pack of three we can still tweak it and you know think that we didn't make any money out of it. We made the investments into the category and we grow it. But he doesn't want to pitch it at 24.99 because according to him at 24.99 he loses the cream of the customers and he wants to launch it and compete with the Calvin Klein CK and everybody the Juicy Coutures at 1999 now. So this is something probably I think we'll have to speak to Shabir and see if he can do it. But before we do that can we even get it to that 2499 is something that we need to first work on. So we extra. We should. We should do. These are two prong attacks. Number one, as you said, you work with Zia and see what best we can come up with vis a vis Bangladesh production number one. Number two, please explore the same thing if we go for. If we do this as a China production. All right. Because this product is mainly being made in China. Correct. So we are not averse to making goods in China. Let's we have a guy sitting there. Let him go and visit some factories and find out where these things happens. Let us find a factory which can do in China. Zia from his connection can also find us a factory in China. His old connection. Which factory? Jatin is the guy. He can help you on this. Jatin has done this in China. Even he was in China. He was working on this product. Very good. Speak to Jatin also. If you. If if that is your information then speak to Jatin also find a factory in China. And now that that when our team when I was at I believe Gargi is going to New York. Right. So give a give mandate to Gargi go shopping as to who is selling what and what retail in in all these places. And if that Calvin Klein is sending is selling at 1999 it might not be the bloody thing with that molded cups and it must be just basic bralettes. What I'm trying to say before we start following 100 worth Shabbir is saying let us you guide Gargi into going figuring out with four or five stores of what actually selling there and what product line what price point? What product? And they will understand this, this product very well because they use this product also. So you can buy the molded cup bra at any price point. What Shabir sir is buying at TJ Maxx, pack of three for one is a molded cup bra. You can go into H M and buy to the double or triple packs for like 20, $25 or less. You can. But obviously they are then buying those items at a massive scale. Right. And also love skins. That quality is very, very different to the quality of bra that you would get at a TJ Maxx or even at an H M in construction, also in size range, also in like hand feel of the actual fabric covering the bra cup. Okay, understand all these things. This. If HM is selling it at 1999, then obviously they are buying at $10 whatever to sell at 1999. Am I right? If they're buying at $10, that means it is possible to submit this product and $10 and whatever substandard product, subs, cheaper fabric or cheaper trims being used is possible to buy at $10. My funda is that if the H and M is buying at $10 and whatever upgradation is there in our product compared to their product, whatever this 50, 60 cents, it will not be more than 5060 cents a piece. That that much in our margins. We can always cover that in our margins because HMS XY zooms a Z and whatever we can, we can play around with our margins and we can kind of COVID for that. So if, if somebody else is making this, we need to find out, figure out where they are making it, what is being done. If this goods are being sold that then then we have to go to those units and see if you can find a smaller unit where they can produce these goods. That this means obviously this is the exact situation which is the, the how sweaters were being costed by Ranjan's team and then they were quoting crazy prices and then suddenly they got the bamboo and they went to five factories and then Z got involved and then finally now they have confirmed everything in $6.50 to the customer. So maybe some. We need to find the right manufacturer, right partner for this. That's all. That's all. Yeah, yeah. MOND cannot be the partner for this. MOND doesn't make that kind of car. Do they do the, do they need. Any specific compliance requirement? No, no, no, no. Zero. Zero compliance. Zero compliance. Zero. The entire project has been run by us. The entire thing was conceptualized. We bought all the samples, we did all the Backend work. We created the samples, we created the packaging. Everything was done by us. Luckily because we had Montal. We had relationship with Montal is why. We could do it. But now that it's done, we cannot. Do it under price would be higher to comparing. So we have some small units. So we can. We can. We can work with them also. So see the question. Yes. Not only the. Not only the CM price. The way we are pricing the product, Same item, if it is selling for 19 in. In a store in America. Obviously we are doing something wrong. Something with something. We're not very 100 wrong. Not the same product. No, no. It's not the same product. Yeah. Because if you see the product, you know what I'm saying, It's not the same product. Yes. Like a CM and the afob. In both options. We'll see if they have a supplier. Yeah. Please work some. Do some more customers work into it if you are. If it is not the same product, the difference be 50, 60 cents. Cannot be $4, $3. Like that. What I'm trying to say, you know. Correct. So that's why I said like. Like we spoke yesterday night. So let me revisit it again today. I'll work with. No problem. I'll work with. Then we'll. And as I said have Gi go visit the stores when she's in New York and bring you a feedback of who's selling what and do some shopping or whatever. And then we'll revisit this on next Monday again. We'll talk. We talk about this next Monday again. Okay. All right. Okay. India customer. About anything further on the utilization of stuff and all that. He'll work on it. No, he'll take some time. No, it won't happen over detail. So now he'll work on it. He'll come back to me by next week. Week, 10 days. Because he'll pitch it to Ross and Burlington. Because I told him. Let's start with Ross and Burlington. Maybe the margins will not be there. But at least we'll have some continuity. And we have a chance to recover what we losing. Okay. Mal, when you're in office, call me regarding fleece talk and Sapir, make a note and call me. Please talk. Shabir, call me. Okay. All right. Anything else? Nothing from my end. Okay. All right. Bye. Okay, bye. Bye.